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So glad he came back on. It is the man, the myth, the motherfucking legend himself Corey Vinnable. It still cracks me up that the whole time we recorded last time and I kept saying your name wrong, y'all literally thought I was fucking with you and the whole time I'm like, bro, i swear that's your name.

Speaker 2: 1:17

I mean I did. I don't know. I'm not going to stop you in the middle of your podcast and be like yo, you fucked up my name, dude, Like what the fuck Like it's fine, But I really did. I thought I thought you was just fucking with me, man, And I was just rolling with it because it was pretty funny, to be honest.

Speaker 1: 1:31

Dude, that's like the first time I recorded with Audio Fassad. Oh, yeah, yeah, i was calling him Audio Fecade. Oh, i remember that too, Dude.

Speaker 2: 1:44

that's okay. That takes much more precedence over that. That's got to be like 10 times worse, Dude.

Speaker 1: 1:49

I'm not going to lie to you. That was the first time in my life I've ever seen Fassad spelled out So Oh, dude, that's that West Virginia ad humication right there. Hell yeah, that's that West Virginia ad humication. You know how we do around here. Oh yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2: 2:06

Berkeley County Schools graduate right here. I can barely count to 10.

Speaker 1: 2:09

Hey, Morgan County. Yes, sir, i got to use all my fingers and toes for 20. I'm surprised you got 20 fingers and toes. Hey man, we ain't that dangerous in this neck of the woods? I don't know, dude, dude, it's so great having you in here, mainly because the last time you were in here, the studio was like still like in working, like we were still making it better, making it better, making it better.

Speaker 2: 2:35

Yeah, a fuck of fly would fart in here at Reverb-Rate for the next three minutes.

Speaker 1: 2:39

Yeah, man, I mean honestly, what really helped in here was putting the paneling on the ceiling too.

Speaker 2: 2:45

Yeah, you got a lot more going on now to catch a lot of these reflections. You just got to get some shit in these corners. You got to do something with that closet over there too.

Speaker 1: 2:53

I got to close it. It's normally closed. I just forgot to close it, just give me one second.

Speaker 2: 2:57

You're good. But nah, man, once you get some base traps in the corners and stuff and really clean up a little more, it'll be golden. Even now, though, like I said, it's been two years, so it still feels nice and fresh. It sounds a lot better than what I remember. But yeah, man, for what you got going, it's great. Yeah, man, i mean, it's a work in progress, Dude.

Speaker 1: 3:26

that's the dope thing about a studio. Unless you have the money to go and actually build a studio, a studio is always going to be a work in progress because there's always something you can do better.

Speaker 2: 3:35

Oh yeah, man, That's the name of this game, dude. They don't want us to make music, they just want us to spend money on shit and keep funding the fucking capitalist music scene. Dude, have you ever looked on Sweetwater at like? Yes, I've looked on Sweetwater and it is a dangerous place. It don't matter what you're going to reference, it is a dangerous place, so I was looking up like their sound paneling on there. Is it like their brand or just what they carry? It's what they carry.

Speaker 1: 4:02

Right, bro, for like four squares of it is like 300 fucking dollars. Yeah, and I'm just like I mean, granted, it's the rectangular ones that are all one unit, you just hang them. Oh the big panels.

Speaker 2: 4:16

Yeah Yeah, that shit's expensive, but usually, like I mean, you can make them cheap. But a lot of times it's like fiberglass and insulation and two by fours and then you wrap it and a lot of them have a metal frame and it's like that shit adds up, and then of course that's a business production. So then you got to add your profit on top and it's they're so expensive You can go to Home Depot and make them for like 80 bucks 80 bucks a piece.

Speaker 1: 4:40

Oh yeah, And I've been looking into doing that for the ceiling.

Speaker 2: 4:44

Oh, dude, it would be great for you, absolutely would be great. I mean, that's probably where that'll probably clean up a lot more. You get more shit going on on the ceiling here. Like, your walls are pretty solid for the most part, but you get that ceiling going and wow.

Speaker 1: 5:01

Yeah, i mean, and then having hardwood in here doesn't help out either.

Speaker 2: 5:04

Well, you know that's neither here nor there. Throw a carpet under the table and call it a day Dude, that's the plan.

Speaker 1: 5:11

But, man, you got an event coming up that I'm really excited for and really sad that I'm going to have to miss it this year.

Speaker 2: 5:18

You're going to miss it Yeah.

Speaker 1: 5:19

Last I talked to you he was going to make it, so I looked at my schedule for the army and I'm going that whole weekend not even in town.

Speaker 2: 5:29

I'm calling the army right now. I'm calling Joe Bybin and I'm telling him to give you the weekend off I wish I wish I could Dude.

Speaker 1: 5:40

So what's all going on at this event? You're at a new venue this year, Yeah new venue.

Speaker 2: 5:44

Definitely super excited about that. I mean, what can I say, dude? the monuments. The hell of a place. It's an old bank and they converted it into a venue. It's it's. You have to see it and you've seen it, so you know like it's.

Speaker 1: 6:05

That green room is amazing.

Speaker 2: 6:06

The green room is so cool because it's the inside of the vault. I mean everything they've got going on in general, the beer garden, just the way it's laid out, having a second floor on the venue. I mean, come on, dude, it's, it's. It's one of the best venues in Winchester right now, or not even best, but it's nice and it's clean and it's well taken care of. And that's not to say that other venues aren't, for the most part anyways. But you know it's, it's nice, it's clean and it's run by great staff and we're absolutely thrilled to be working with them. I work with, I serve at the restaurant that's under their umbrella of monument entertainment, That's right next door. It's Ellie's pub. Shout out Love you guys, You know, but it's, it's, it's just a great environment to be in. And with O'Connell's closing down, I guess it was either the end of last year or the beginning of this year, I can't remember exactly. But we had to go somewhere and I just kind of I took a shot. I talked to the operations manager. He was there when I was closing, when I was like yo, can I pitch you something Like I got this event I do every year and maybe we could do it here this year if you all aren't booked up that much. And he's like yeah, man. So I shot him an email and when I shot, the thing that sold me on it was when I shot him the email, he was just like it wasn't a response of, okay, cool, let's get this working. It was this is fucking sick. And then it was just ideas. Right after that It was like oh, what if we did this, or we could do this, or how can we do this? And it was like okay, i'm sold, like that's it. I think we're in good hands and we are, we've been in good hands and we're just absolutely thrilled. That's all I can say. We're thrilled to be doing it with them.

Speaker 1: 7:59

Well, this, well, what's going to be really weird for me is Like for like, like, as a fan, what's weird is like chaos fest going from an outdoor to an indoor festival.

Speaker 2: 8:11

Oh, it's not weird, it's great. I'm Dude, i'm so excited to have indoors this year. It's gonna be air-condition, we're not gonna have to worry about fucking 90 degrees to a thunderstorm and you know It's, it's just. I think it's gonna be an overall just way better experience for us and one less thing to worry about.

Speaker 1: 8:31

Is that what happened to chaos last year, or is that night of the living shred?

Speaker 2: 8:35

No, that was chaos fest, because we did night of living shred at granny's last year. It was like We pushed it back to I think that the date was July 23rd. So, like you're fucking peak summer heat, like You know it's, it's rough out here when it's when it's like the end of July and I think it was. It was upwards of 90 degrees that day. I think real feel was in the triple digits and and It was just all we could do to stay cooled off. And then, god, it was towards the end of the night I think we're about halfway through the show And the clouds were starting to roll in. And then mr Grizzly went up and they didn't even get to start their set because we heard I think we heard thunder, or it started raining or something, or it started raining. And then we heard thunder and Brandon was like all right, we got shut power for now, so we don't kill any of my gear and you know whatever. And we went in and talked to him. They're like oh yeah, you could move it in. And we, everybody fucking threw in a hand and we grabbed shit, went inside and It was great. Dude, this is what the fifth year Yes, this is your number five. Well, funny thing. So technically it's Four years. Yeah, yeah, technically this is the fourth or four years have done it, but this is our fifth event. Because Brandon made this point. I was like this is our fifth year. He's like, but we started in 2019, four years later, four years ago, you know. But uh, yeah, it's our fifth year doing it. So it's uh, we're gonna have birthday cake to celebrate a birthday of chaos fest. And Yeah, i can't, honestly, i can't believe we fucking made it to five years. I didn't want to make it to five years. To tell you the truth, it was supposed to be just a Do it and done. And then George goes Oh hey, this is pretty cool, you want to do a Halloween event? I was like, well, i fucking guess so. And then everybody was like, oh hey, what are we doing for chaos fest 2020? I was like Jesus Christ, do you all want to do this again? So we just kind of kept rolling with it to keep the people happy, you know.

Speaker 1: 10:41

Oh, what is Why? What is the idea behind chaos? fest like where did that idea. Idea come from.

Speaker 2: 10:52

Where it came from was my old band wanted to do just a kind of a little bit of everything. We wanted to Just do like a release show for a single or whatever it was I don't know what the hell. It was single or cd or something and Uh, but we wanted to do a release show regardless. And then we were like Yo, what if we? just because this was a time when I was just coming into the scene and I was meeting a lot of people, i was making a lot of friends and I was like Yo, what if we just threw all these fucking cool ass bands on here, had a big ass show and just Fuck, us like, let's just bring all these guys together and have a cool ass day? and Everybody we pitched it to for the most part was pretty on board with it. Like everybody was like yo, this is actually like really cool and Um, just kind of ran with it. To be honest, that's pretty much what it was and we never intended it for it to be like a Full scale festival and then it just kind of ended up happening being that way.

Speaker 1: 11:54

Dude, i'm not gonna lie, though. Like the lineup, for this is I, in my honest opinion, i think is the widest ranged lineup I've seen for a chaos fest.

Speaker 2: 12:05

Yeah, that was the. That was the goal this year. It was kind of when we sat down to book the bands, because usually, like, let's see, the first three years, i did most of the booking, if not all of the booking, i know, i think 2021. Uh, nate Hockman, uh, he sat down with me and helped me a little bit with shit, um, and he referred me a couple bands and stuff, but for the most part I did all the booking. And then, you know, brandon, of course, being my business partner, pitch stuff. But, uh, uh, last year, 2022, brandon was uh, uh involved in reaching out to bands. Like, we sat down and picked out bands together and I showed them bands and then he reached out. But this year, this year, it's crazy, this is the first year we've actually sat down together and went over bands and decided who we're gonna have. And, uh, when I sat down with them, i didn't, i had a big, big list of bands. I made a Facebook post about it and I just collected a bunch of names and I had some that I'd already been eyeballing anyways And I pretty much was just like dude, i want, with this being our fifth year, like let's make it special and let's celebrate our scene and just pretty much showcase all walks of the metal genre in our area. And of course we got a couple out of status like Flesh of the Lotus is a new band around here. You know they're from PA, they're veterans from PA, but I mean they're absolute unit And they're they're something else. So I wanted to bring those guys down here and get them involved in our scene. Um, i had the betrayers out of state as well, but you know they've. We've had them here quite a few times between chaos, fast and right, live in general. So they've built quite the following here. Um, and who else? There's one more that's out of state Shit. Uh oh, half-heard Voices. That's who it is, but Half-Heard Voices is basically a fucking local at this point.

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Yeah.

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I mean as much as they play around here.

Speaker 1: 14:08

you know and Well couldn't we technically, couldn't you consider Deathless and out of state band now as well? Well, now yeah.

Speaker 2: 14:17

They're fucking. from Winchester, They get a pass. Okay, They just moved to. I mean, they've been there for like a year and a half, two years, whatever, but they just moved officially to their, to Tennessee is where their home base is now. But we'll call them local for the sake of they're still local in our hearts.

Speaker 1: 14:35

Dude, i'm not gonna lie, Getting Half-Heard after the Half-Heard Voices after the year they just had is killer man.

Speaker 2: 14:42

Well, it's kind of crazy, because much love to you boys. But um, they weren't actually our first picket of headliner. They were going to be the direct support, which I was still thrilled to just even have them to begin with. But uh, we were shooting for defending Kane and JB was out of town on vacation on that weekend. So we were like, fuck, dude, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? Like, oh God, now we got to find another headliner And Brandon was like yo, they just came off of a fucking tour with Soulfly, a national US tour with Soulfly. I was like wait, you actually are onto something there, you know, because like they're really good musicians and all, but like they're really good musicians outside of the music. They promote their content very well, they promote their shows, they just like just everything they do is the example of what bands should do. Like I said, they promote really well, they make a lot of good content that stays engaging and they're just overall, great musicians. So when he said that, i was like, dude, this is a no brainer, like we've got to make this happen.

Speaker 1: 15:55

Yeah, dude, it's the lineup's killer.

Speaker 2: 16:00

I'm thrilled We got a lot of cool bands, Shit.

Speaker 1: 16:04

Phantom Hourglass which.

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I've been gunning for them for a few years and haven't been able to make it work.

Speaker 1: 16:10

So I was happy to get them. They are one of my favorite locals.

Speaker 2: 16:15

Absolutely dude. They write some pretty nasty riffs and I think they're pretty well received around Winchester and I think they're going to perform very well at Chaos Fest. Like you know, i look at shit from a business standpoint as well. I want to make sure I'm putting bands on the bill that are going to perform well, not just their- live performance but are going to draw people and just be good for the event, And they were one. like I said, that I've been gunning for for years. Actually, I think every year that we've booked Chaos Fest, I've tried to get a hold of them and we weren't able to make it happen. So this year when we were, I was like hell, yeah, dude, stoked about that.

Speaker 1: 16:56

Now y'all are doing. What are y'all doing, merch wise? Because I'd like remember seeing a post from me all about, like it was a poll for, like, commemorative items to celebrate five years, like. What did y'all like? finally, like, just stick on doing.

Speaker 2: 17:11

Absolutely nothing. We're doing nothing. You're just going to show up and have a good time. Oh yeah, no. so we got a. We got a few things we're doing. We got the little jelly bands which we're just going to fucking throw them out like candy, but we're doing drawstring bags, cds, t-shirts and posters.

Speaker 1: 17:28

Now, is the CDs just going to be like a compilation of, like the band's plan?

Speaker 2: 17:32

Yeah, it's just a compilation CDs, all it is. I think everything on there except like two tracks are brand new from all the bands. So well, okay, i can't say that because half her voices has dropped their track as a single, but I mean, other than that pretty, it's still brand new. So pretty much everything on that record besides two songs is brand new, and that's something I really wanted to do. I just had the idea and I was set on it And I'm super appreciative of the bands for making that happen And I think it's going to be a great product. Like I know nobody buys CDs, like I don't even have a fucking CD player anymore. So it is what it is. But I think for people that actually care about what we do if people do it all to be honest, but if people do care I think it'll be a cool commemorative item And shout out Matt, the mixer of Wilson King podcast and the man that makes things happen Dude, fucking, absolutely killed the CD art. Like it's phenomenal. If you remind me when we're done, i'll show you the proofs. It's fucking ridiculous, billy. They look so good Dude.

Speaker 1: 18:44

Matt's one of them. People that, like you give him a mission, he's not going to give you a half ass job. Oh yeah, like Matt's one of the few people that I know that like is almost, like you know, jack of all trades, master of none, but like he's a Jack of all trades and like master of all.

Speaker 2: 19:03

I always feel bad, though, because, like, i feel like I give him too much work sometimes And I'm a very the way my mind works. I'm always on a schedule And, like, if things start to fall behind schedule, i start freaking the fuck out Like, oh my God, this is never going to happen. Now, we're done, we're ruined. We might as well just fucking close up shop. But I always feel bad because I'm like, hey, here's this. I know you're busy already, but then can you have this done by this day, please, pretty please. And I'm like dude, I feel like such an asshole. But he always, he always turns up and does great.

Speaker 1: 19:38

Dude, i mean shit man. I feel bad like with a lot of the episodes we do because like there's some like good, a lot of cleanup stuff he's got to do, just like you know, people not being used to like being on microphones and stuff you know and I mean you know, maybe a little bit of the cell phone bleed Coming in sometimes, because you know I tell people all the time Hey, no cell phones on the table.

Speaker 2: 20:02

and then just need a little sign on here.

Speaker 1: 20:04

No fucking phone, no motherfucking phones. But dude Matt kills it and like everything He does Well, i mean doing like, have like. Have you heard the 12 sin songs like?

Speaker 2: 20:14

master one. I know he sent the demos all the time and I can't put it any better than you did. Master, jack of all trades, master of none Like it's. It's ridiculous the amount of shit that that guy can do and do well and do well. Yes, a lot of people can do a lot of shit, but not a lot of people can do a lot of shit and do it well. Well, dude, his graphic designs on point with everything flyers, the CDs, the shit he's done for me, Dude, the flyers that he's done the past two years, like I was just I don't have words, like every year I got them anyways. I was just like okay, this is a flyer, like it's fine, It looks really good, but this is cool. But then when, when Matt's took over and started doing our flyers, I was like holy shit, dude, like you didn't have to do all this, but they're great And they definitely seem to have been well or received a lot better because of the amount of just detail he puts into everything. Like we probably talked on the phone for an hour and a half this year just going over the flyer.

Speaker 1: 21:23

Oh, dude, I mean, do Matt? Matt hit me up the other day because of the last graphic for the last episode that we just dropped. Yeah, I saw that It was cool Shit. He was like who did that for you? I'm like, no one, I did it. I was like why does it look like shit? No, he just doesn't want to lose his job. No, no, Well, so like you can tell, like if you go back through our episodes from this year, you can tell the graphics I did and the graphics Matt did.

Speaker 2: 21:51

Honestly, I wouldn't have known the difference on the last one. It looked great.

Speaker 1: 21:55

And like no, matt's, like no, it looks great. I'm like hey, you've taught me a thing or two.

Speaker 2: 21:58

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:59

Dude, literally the only thing I do in those graphics is like I go into Canva and I find like a really cool, like pre-made, like our like background already.

Speaker 2: 22:08

Yeah, anybody can do that, billy, mr.

Speaker 1: 22:10

Graphic Designer extraordinaire. I know Graphic Designer extraordinaire.

Speaker 2: 22:15

Well, now you are Canva's about to put Matt U-Bank out of a job.

Speaker 1: 22:19

Oh, Matt uses Canva for some stuff.

Speaker 2: 22:21

Oh, does he really? Yeah, i don't know. I thought he used Gimp for everything.

Speaker 1: 22:24

No, he uses that for most of it, but like Canva, like if you need something quick, he just pops on his phone and does it on Canva, real quick Dude.

Speaker 2: 22:31

some of these phone apps are ridiculous.

Speaker 1: 22:33

Well, dude like that one that I just made. I made on my phone at work in like five minutes.

Speaker 2: 22:39

Yeah, that's. it blows my mind that you can just do that on your phone Now. like I remember when that shit was first rolling out but granted, that's when I had like an iPod touch, like the first jet or there's like the fourth gen iPod touch, i think. So like when those apps were first coming out, they were awful, they were so bad and everybody would post them on Instagram and they would look like shit. And now what you can do with it is just so unreal.

Speaker 1: 23:02

Well, i mean shit, man. like the only thing I really did for like that last graphic I did was some drop shadows and some glow shadows And that's it, jesus.

Speaker 2: 23:13

Christ, it's ridiculous. I just can't believe it.

Speaker 1: 23:18

Well, i mean, do listen. There's graphic design and then there's taking pictures and making them look better.

Speaker 2: 23:25

Okay, that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 1: 23:26

Yeah, like graphic design is a whole another fucking level of research that I don't feel like doing.

Speaker 2: 23:33

Yeah, me neither. I used to do that shit for a living and it's kind of boring. And now whenever I have to do it, it's like kind of fun, but it's like dude, I just, and you know, I yeah, I just don't want to do that shit half the time.

Speaker 1: 23:50

Well, I mean, dude, that's like as much as I love doing video for this, like put faces to names for like people who have no idea who most of these guests are because most of them are local people, you know, as much as I loved doing video for that aspect, dude, the time and stuff that goes into like video editing, like true video editing is like I'm just like man. I don't have enough time because, like I would go and work my regular day job 1012 hours a day, get off from there, go to the hotel and then do video editing or try to get better at you know research, doing four or five more hours in the evening.

Speaker 2: 24:32

Yeah, i've dabbled myself this year well in the last year into this year, and it's a lot of work to be done. Dude It's. I've done quite a few videos, like we're doing custom projector videos for the monument, for Chaos Fest or all the bands. It's not just a logo up on a projector. What's wrong? You're turkey too strong.

Speaker 1: 24:53

Not at all. It's just getting stronger, the further down I get.

Speaker 2: 24:57

Yeah, but I've dabbled with it myself and it is. It's an insane amount of work if you really want a solid product. Well, dude.

Speaker 1: 25:05

The hardest thing is, and the thing that used to piss me off more than fucking anything, was whenever you would like throw in the outside audio and then trying to get it to match up. Oh my God, because I'd be sitting there watching it, like trying to read lips, and I'm sitting here and I'm like, dude, I got that lined up and then I would get ready to post it. so I'd like cut a section out and send it to Matt and be like hey, do I have this lined up? He's like nah, dude, you're still ahead a little bit or you're still behind, Yeah. And I'm like fuck.

Speaker 2: 25:38

See, that's the one thing that's cool about doing it with. Like, if you're filming shit for music content or whatever, you just put a click in your recording or your recording audio and then when you bounce out your track that you're actually using, you just bounce out a click track with it and call it a day and you line it up. But I've done it not like that before and I'm with you. It's so awful. I think the last time I tried to do it I spent a half hour trying to line that shit up.

Speaker 1: 26:06

Dude, i remember I was down at Fort Hood last year trying to edit up a video I can't remember which video it was, i think it was something we did in house and I'm sitting there and, like dude, i'm like right on the computer, like with my mouth, and I've got some of the people down there with me because we're all hanging out in the lobby because we're like we're tired of being in our fucking rooms. You know what I mean. And they're like dude, you've been staring at that screen that close for the last 45 minutes.

Speaker 2: 26:37

What the fuck are you doing And I'm like come here come here.

Speaker 1: 26:41

Does this look lined?

Speaker 2: 26:42

up to you. They're like I mean. It'll look lined up and then you bounce it out and it's like fucking 30 seconds behind this. Oh my God.

Speaker 1: 26:49

Or dude, dude. The one that pisses me off is like the thousands of a second behind. Oh, dude Because like it's because, like, sometimes it doesn't matter, but like there's sometimes, like whenever you're saying a word, just being a thousandth of a second behind or ahead, like you notice it, like saying that or like wallaby Yeah, it looks funny, it looks funny as fuck, and I'm just like God damn it.

Speaker 2: 27:14

That's why I don't do shit like that anymore. I can't be bothered, it's, i'd rather just fucking pull all my teeth out one by one with a wrench. Dude, let's do it. I'm good, i'll pass on that. Maybe another time. I'm busy that day.

Speaker 1: 27:30

Dude, it's so great having you back in here.

Speaker 2: 27:32

It's great to see you, Billy.

Speaker 1: 27:34

We don't get together enough, but I feel like that's, a lot of people nowadays aren't there. There ain't enough time in the day, it seems like anymore, to like really get and like see a lot of the people that, like you, want to see.

Speaker 2: 27:48

No, i got time, i just stay home. I can't be bothered to go out. I got a great setup at home and I just kill the lights, turn my LEDs on and I just play games all night. I can't be bothered to go out anymore. It just ain't fun That and I just I focus so much on chaos fest this year, trying to make it extra special, and it's like, dude, i'm good, i'll stay the fuck home.

Speaker 1: 28:11

Dude going out so expensive anymore. Well, that too. Well, dude, like even going to like Trubador right. Like you know, that's my go to bar because it was always cheap, dude. I went the other night, got a bucket of beer, deb got a couple of drinks and it was 80 bucks. God damn. And I'm like what the fuck?

Speaker 2: 28:32

Yeah, the only time I go out to work is when I go to, or when I go out is when I go to work pretty much. I still have my occasional pop out here and there, but I just go to work because I get a discount for working there, so I get like discounted food. So, like the other day for my one project that I'm dabbling with right now, my buddy came down and we took a break from recording. I went to get food and we got like I got a burger, we got wings and we got like fries And then we both had a drink And after my discount I was like 26 bucks and I was like this is tight. I'm fine with this, that and it's I like where I work anyways and the food's good, but it's just like I'd rather just go do that than go out and fucking have a $150 bar tab and not even have a buzz. How is Ellie's pub?

Speaker 1: 29:18

I've yet to eat there.

Speaker 2: 29:19

It's great. I love it. I don't want to sound like a shill just because I work there, but, dude, it's fucking great food.

Speaker 1: 29:27

I almost kind of what you sound like. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:29

I say it to my customers all the time. I'm like, look, i'm not trying to sound like a shill, but the food here is really fucking good Like I've. They feed us real good there. I'm pretty good friends with most of the chefs there and they they got the smoker there at the monument and they're always bringing in shit and they're like here, try this, try this. Or here I made this, try it. And I've probably started the middle of November and I've probably put on 25, 30 pounds since I've started.

Speaker 1: 29:57

Ain't no way, i don't see it, dude. Oh fuck. What's the name of the one chef there Over at the monument? The?

Speaker 2: 30:07

head chef.

Speaker 1: 30:07

Yeah, Chris Dude he is killer.

Speaker 2: 30:10

Oh, yeah, dude, chris is. Chris is the guy. He apparently. I didn't know this when I started, but apparently he used to own a restaurant down in front Royal, i don't remember what it was called, but he used to own a restaurant down there. But, dude, yeah, he's. He's the man that I tell you what. He comes up with some crazy shit and he gets it done. And he just outside of work. Even, dude, he's a fucking, he's a cool guy and he's he's something that's for sure. Shout out, chris.

Speaker 1: 30:41

So the new venue? what is one aspect about the monument that has you the most excited?

Speaker 2: 30:50

Oh shit, dude, it's just being indoors. I'm just ready to be the fucking doors. We don't have to worry about anything. This year, i mean it is a little different being indoors because, like now we have like O'Connell's we were still limited right, there was a gate, but I think capacity out there was like four. It was between four and 500. So that's like a lot of room And of course you had the deck too and people would set up inside and like. So we had a lot of space to work with. But you know, now we still have a lot of space because the monument's huge, but we are on a constraint There's only so much room we have. So figuring all that shit out has been Probably the most difficult part of this year, because it was scary, dude. Like this year has been so weird. It's just everything's been smooth. Booking the bands was solid, getting getting in with the monument, getting our contract signed up and everything Smooth as could be. And it's like what the fuck? The only thing we worried about was getting bands there load in and gear staging, and once we got in there and did a walkthrough, it was like we're fine, like everything's fine. But I mean, yeah, just being indoors this year is great, but since I already mentioned that, i guess just the venue itself, dude Like it's. It's such a beautiful place It really is, and I think people are gonna be absolutely just thrilled to see, see it in person, because there's a lot of people that still haven't been yet And I think people are just gonna shit their pants when they walk through the door.

Speaker 1: 32:36

Dude, i've been there quite a few times. Most of the nights I go are for the EDM nights.

Speaker 2: 32:41

Yeah, that's most of the times I've seen y'all pop in after work and, oh shit, there's Billy Wilson and Deb.

Speaker 1: 32:47

Yeah, but dude. That place reminds me of a mini Echo stage down in DC. Yeah, i've never been Dude. Take Echo stage, split it in half. That's the monument. Oh, okay that's pretty nice. Okay, maybe I'm being. Maybe it's like split Echo stage into a quarter and that's the monument. I've never been so I can't speak on it. Echo stage is a pretty big fucking place, so probably like a quarter of Echo stage But like man, the monuments, the closest thing to like an in city club that we got in our area.

Speaker 2: 33:19

I mean pretty much a lot of nights. When they get the DJ nights going, dude, i mean, you've been there for some of them, they the call. It's mostly the college kids. It's the college kids from Shenandoah University and they just especially after Piccadilly's closes too. Once midnight hits and Piccadilly's is done, everybody just comes down the street to the monument, dude, fucking Apple Blossom Pretty much both nights because I worked that Friday and Saturday. Both nights I got out of work about 10 o'clock and just, i'm pretty. From what I remember, i think both nights there was a line out the door across the street, like through the walking mall across the street. That's how busy it gets on them. Dj nights, dude, it's insane. But of course you know that was a rare occasion for Apple Blossom, it was extra busy downtown but still, like most of their DJ nights are insane, dude, they are killer, honestly man.

Speaker 1: 34:13

the DJs at the DJ nights at the monument are always wild, like Corey and the sorry DJ curfew, and them always put on a good show.

Speaker 2: 34:23

Yeah, yeah I. He seems to be a frequent there a lot and they, they fuck with them pretty hard there.

Speaker 1: 34:30

Bro, he's killing it at touch of Texas now at the monument, like Ew not stinky touch of Texas.

Speaker 2: 34:37

Well, he just does like his, like No, i know I'm not knocking him, just fuck. touch of Texas.

Speaker 1: 34:42

Hey, you that don't know you don't want to know. But man, you were talking earlier about how like you've been playing a lot more like games and stuff here recently. what games have you been dabbling in?

Speaker 2: 34:53

Legend of Zelda baby The new one. Yeah, how is it, dude? it's probably one of the best games I've ever played. At least story at least story wise, like the mechanics are cool and shit, but story wise pretty tight. It's been that and I took a break for a while from working and I just started playing some games again. recently I've just been playing like Call of Duty just just for that pleasure, just to scratch that itch You know.

Speaker 1: 35:20

So I just update a call of duty because I was about to delete it, because I'm like fuck this shit's. I've been playing nothing but like PGA 2K 23 and NBA 2K 23.

Speaker 2: 35:32

Oh man.

Speaker 1: 35:32

And I'm like man, i don't touch this game anymore, i don't need it.

Speaker 2: 35:35

But then I saw the new map. Yeah, that's where I met with it. I have I have love hate relationships with it. I just, i just don't give a shit anymore. I don't play games as much, so it's like I'll be gone like. The last time I played Call of Duty was like two months ago maybe, so I had enough of a break.

Speaker 1: 35:55

I'm good like last time I played Call of Duty was last week.

Speaker 2: 36:01

Well, ok, yeah, i played like the other day, but like before, i started playing again recently has been like two months, but the last one, well, not the last one, i guess the last war zone and modern warfare I it was bad.

Speaker 1: 36:16

I played hours into that.

Speaker 2: 36:18

Yeah, i had over a thousand hours in that game easily and I probably when I was real heavy into it. I was playing every day, just about I'd get home from work, i'd eat dinner and then I would play from God, like I'd play from like 7 to 11 every night, at least 6 to 11, 7 to 11, and I would just play for like four or five hours a night every night, religiously. So.

Speaker 1: 36:46

I would get to the hotel from work and this is like after we finished on the video and so you know doing video. I would get to the hotel about 435 o'clock, order door dash, take a shower, play card while eating my dinner. Yeah, that's pretty much from about 5 to like 9, 30, 10 o'clock every single day. Oh yeah but like dude it seemed, i tried playing this new one and the mechanics are all for me.

Speaker 2: 37:17

Yeah, it's a game to play. It's call of duty. It's always shit. It's been shit for years and I just I'm tired of being mad at the fact that it's shit. The Activision and Raven and whoever the fuck else is involved in Infinity Ward and all of them, they're fucking dog shit developers anymore, and it is what it is. They're not gonna. They're not gonna put out another good game unless they fucking miraculously get their shit together. So until then, i'm just gonna ride with it and it is what it is.

Speaker 1: 37:45

Well, dude, the new map that they just put out. I saw videos and it looks like they tried to like kind of remake for dance, without it being for dance.

Speaker 2: 37:53

I mean it's cool. I just enjoyed it's a little slower paced and it's not as fucking sweaty like it still is, but it's, if you play slower, like you can play slow and it's still cool. So I like that. I just I honestly, like you know, i I'm a whore for the multiplayer, no matter what. So I play a lot of the multiplayer in general and then dude the DMZ. Dmz is fun as shit until you fucking die and lose everything. I'll have great times. Also, i could sit and play DMZ for hours, but the minute I die because some team comes through and is like an asshole, it's just like I'm done. I'm done. I'll play this another time. I'll get on Warzone or multiplayer. Now fuck this.

Speaker 1: 38:37

Well, we'll have to play some time.

Speaker 2: 38:39

Absolutely. Can your internet handle it out here?

Speaker 1: 38:43

Dog, you don't know. You boy upgraded out here. Oh, did you? We got the.

Speaker 2: 38:48

Starlink's out here. Starlink too, it's nice when it wants to be. Well, see, i got a lot of trees cleared out. Yeah, see, i don't. I have a lot of trees around my house. And I was hoping, because they sent us the the RV dish and supposedly it's just what they're doing for making better reception, because we had the original like fat circle one, yeah, and it was cool, like in the winter. It was cool because all the leaves would be off the trees. It'd be fucking great, not a problem in the world, everybody on the house, i could have every fucking device they have on the internet. Perfect summer would hit nothing. It would keep dropping out constantly and it was damn near unusable to play games. And then they sent us this dish which, again, we got it in the winter time, like well, fall into winter, so like there was still leaves but they were coming down and it was insane. Like constantly I would check the internet speed and it'd be over a hundred down and I was like holy shit, and it would average usually around 50 to 60, which isn't great by any means, but it's enough for everybody in the house to do what they want to do. I can work from home and do what I need to do, and play games and whatever. And now that the leaves are back, dude, it's like it's it's, it's trying, it's trying so hard. Yeah, go ahead and flex on me what you at right now 75 megabit that's not bad the second download

Speaker 1: 40:16

that's not bad at all upload is right around 20 megabytes a second about what I average. Well, what's wild, though?

Speaker 2: 40:24

right whenever I first got start oh boy, now we're gonna dive into the Starlink.

Speaker 1: 40:28

Grab it, hold, i'm down for this whenever I first got Starlink, i was averaging 150.

Speaker 2: 40:35

See, i wasn't down I we never got it, unless it was winter and the truth, the leaves weren't on the trees. Right, it would see like one little leaf. And that's the worst part. When you look at that obstructions map, it's only a tiny bit around the perimeter of it and it's still just like nope, not gonna function well, dude, it's like, but it seems like ever since they did their price hike like, the speeds have gotten a little bit slower really.

Speaker 1: 41:00

Yeah, dude, it went from like 110 a month to 120 yeah, i know it did jump up a bit ten dollars, but like still, whenever you spent 500 fucking dollars on satellite yeah system and then you're paying 110 dollars a month. But see, here's the thing, right us living where we live at, our hands are fucking tied. It's you either get frontier, which is fucking dog shit, or you get Starlink our options.

Speaker 2: 41:24

Our options were well, hues net, i believe, was an option for us, i'm not certain. We didn't contact, but when we moved in there was a hues net dish there. But our options, which we went through, and we started with Winchester wireless, which was it was what it was. We, we moved out there, we had internet, whatever, and then they ended up not telling us really, but they, they or I think they did, i don't know, but we had a lot of problems with it constantly dropping out and then they locked us to one tower. They pretty much locked it to where our, our dish was pinging off a one tower and then the tower went down and we couldn't use it because they didn't own the tower. So it was like, what the fuck do we do? so then we switched over to Middletown. What was it? it was like Fox was Fox wireless? that's what it was, and that one was cool and it was really cheap. But we didn't have as many problems with them because it was way, way cheaper than Winchester wireless. But my dad was just like yo, let's just get this Starlink, it's probably gonna be ten times better and if you can get past the hiccups that it has like I know because I'm a night owl so I'm up three, four o'clock in the morning. I know when it's gonna cycle. So it is what it is, if you, if you, cool with that, like it's, it's been a lot better than everything else we've had.

Speaker 1: 42:46

I'm not gonna lie, dude, it always seems to do its cycle whenever, like, i'm in the middle of something.

Speaker 2: 42:51

Oh, yeah that you look at the, the little graph and it's just nice drop down with a solid blue chunk.

Speaker 1: 43:00

Well, dude, i don't know if you know this, but did you know like they finally now have like a bunch of additional like subscription options?

Speaker 2: 43:08

No, no, i only I don't, my dad has the account. I just have the app so that I can monitor it, like I just I have the app so I can see, like when the dropouts are happening, if the internet's fucking up or whatever, or Just stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 43:23

But so you have your standard service, it's 120 Sure. And then you have your mobile regional, which is, like you, starlink at any location on landing your continent with best effort service.

Speaker 2: 43:33

Right, i guess that's for, like, the RV people.

Speaker 1: 43:35

Yeah, so that's 150 a month. Services will be best effort and are not permitted for use on the ocean. Metered mobile priority data with high-speed ocean access can be Purchased by the gigabyte on this plan. Do you have mobile globe, which is 200 a month And that's you can use it on land across the globe with active service coverage? So, like if you're traveling to like Germany, you can take your Starlink with you to Germany?

Speaker 2: 44:04

Yeah, who the fuck takes it? Who the fuck thinks a satellite dish with them on the road? like, maybe I could understand. Like, maybe, like a naval ship right, like you take a Navy ship, sure, put a Starlink on it. That's a great idea, i, i would think, and in theory anyways. Maybe not in practice, but maybe in theory it'd be a good idea.

Speaker 1: 44:26

But like, You can get mobile priority, which you get like one terabyte of like super high-speed stuff, but it's you Starlink on the ocean or land across the globe.

Speaker 2: 44:42

Yeah, but The only, the only use case I can think of would be like a naval ship or like a cruise ship. Or okay, like just commercial boats and then army boats right, yeah, that would be the only thing I could think of. What the fuck else do you want global Wi-Fi for What? if you own a yacht, it's still a boat. Tell me something that's not a name, something That's not a boat that you would be able to use that for.

Speaker 1: 45:07

Yeah, but that's for land and sea.

Speaker 2: 45:12

But who needs Wi-Fi in the sea if you're not on it like a Navy ship or some type of boat?

Speaker 1: 45:18

But it's for being on a boat. That's the part of being, about being on the sea. I don't know what else you're gonna be on the fucking sea.

Speaker 2: 45:26

That's what I'm saying. I just don't know, besides a boat, who would need global Wi-Fi anywhere they go like I'm sure you could go to like if you're in Germany, i'm sure you could go to like a fucking internet cafe or something. I've just oh, excuse, i'm sorry, i got to bring in my start my Starlink dish real quick and set this up. Yo, get the fuck out of the way, dude, you're obstructing my dish.

Speaker 1: 45:49

Dude, i'm not allowed it like it does. Like I feel like Whenever, like they first came out with Starlink, people were talking about like getting upwards like 250 megabytes, a second download speed, oh yeah. But I feel like now that you have more and more and more and more and more and more people finally getting on it, it's just getting, it's doing the same thing. The regular internet, you know, if you get fire, sir, whatever um. It's just traffic, Hey we just need daddy, you want to put more satellites in the sky? That's what we need.

Speaker 2: 46:18

Yeah, I Come on Elon Musk. I paid attention to like one one time. Like when we first got it I didn't really know much about it. I'd seen a YouTube video about it, one of the creators on YouTube. I watched it, a video about it. I was like, dude, this is fucking cool. And then right around the same time, my dad was like hey, we're gonna do this. And I was like, oh, okay, i heard really good things about this. And Then I looked into the satellite thing like I didn't know. It was a whole ordeal like that. They were doing multiple batches of satellites and after that I just quit paying attention because it's like it's good. At the end of the day, i really don't give a shit. It the internet's gonna be good or it's gonna be bad. There's nothing I can do about it. I can't fucking go tell Elon to do it. Actually, you know that's a lie. Maybe I'll say something on Twitter. He might respond on Twitter. Yo, elon Starlink, fucking sucks, dudes. Do something about it, dude.

Speaker 1: 47:08

I mean the the cool thing about Starlink is like the satellites are very self-like, adaptive right saddle or the dishes.

Speaker 2: 47:17

Yeah, oh yeah, that's, that's cool And I thought I always thought it was cool that they would like move on their own to adjust and like they would. they've got that warming Feature for if it snows and shit like that's insane bro and it detects itself that there's snow on it. Oh yeah, so like I'm a tech guy first, before I was ever a musician or anything I do now I was a tech guy and fucking, so this stuff still fascinates me a lot and it's like dude, that It's, it's some of. If they really get it going good, it's probably gonna be one of the coolest inner innovations for rural Wi-Fi and just kind of internet in general and quite a while. I mean, of course, internet standards and everything update, but just for an effort to have rural Wi-Fi is.

Speaker 1: 48:05

It's great, i think good Wi-Fi yeah yeah, i mean, granted, what my dad told me he's getting at his house kind of pisses me off. But what does he have?

Speaker 2: 48:17

Xfinity. I'm just gonna cut you off there. I don't want to. I don't want you to rub it in my face. Yeah, i'm pissed, i uh down low speeds. Yeah, where I live, shawnee land has Xfinity and then they're just like fuck you, we're not coming ten minutes up the road, dude, please. Like the whole neighborhood signed a fucking petition. It was like over 500 people that signed. It Did. Can you imagine five? Okay now, like maybe some of it was kids and stuff signing for their parents too, but like that's still at least two to three hundred potential customers. It let me, you know, let me map this right, because they're they're their highest paying package right now. I was like 80 bucks for like gigabit, right, and that's pretty fast. So you do that on 200 people. That's sixteen thousand dollars. I'm of course There's, there's costs and you lose some of that money, but that's sixteen thousand extra dollars And of course that's kind of chump change to Comcast as a whole, but like You're just gonna miss out on that market.

Speaker 1: 49:22

Dude, my dad's getting like two and a half three gigabytes a second download speed Why you got to rub it in and he's getting like 750 megabytes a second upload dude.

Speaker 2: 49:31

My best friend lives in Martinsburg and he, fucking, he has fiber optic. And I'm like, shut up, don't even talk to me, like he knows the struggles I've been through and I'm like, just fuck you, don't rub it in my face. Does Winchester have fiber optic yet? Yeah, there's um. The one I think I'll write off hand is glow fiber. I think I don't know if Xfinity's dabbling at all, but I know there's glow fiber right across the street from the monument.

Speaker 1: 50:01

I'm gonna tell you right now if Frontier runs their fiber optic all the way out here, i might dip on Starlink and stick with frontier. Yeah, but it's still frontier. Billy, yeah, man, but I would still be getting like the same download speed for like a cheaper price a month. I mean, granted, fair. I mean granted, i'm spending like a hundred and eighty dollars a month right now on internet here, but that's because I still have frontier and Starlink.

Speaker 2: 50:32

What a guy won't do, okay, so what?

Speaker 1: 50:34

a guy. So. So the reason I have them both is because you know as well as I do, sometimes Starlink goes out. Oh yeah so you just bounce to the frontier, so that just bounce over to frontier rather just wait through the fucking Starlink dropout, then try to use frontier. Well, dude, front-seer frontier, i still get like 12 megabytes a second down.

Speaker 2: 50:50

Yeah, I'd still rather fucking, I'd still rather just wait the 30 seconds.

Speaker 1: 50:54

But then Starlink but then also what I normally do, like if, like, we're streaming fights here, i give everyone the frontier password, so they're all on frontier, so so that I'm using Starlink to stream the fights.

Speaker 2: 51:08

That's fuck Okay. Actually now, now that you justify it like that, i think that's a much better reason to keep frontier around, that's.

Speaker 1: 51:17

So you got no one on this internet slowing down the fights.

Speaker 2: 51:20

Now that you mentioned, i think that's what I'm connected to. Oh no, it says I'm on Starlink. I don't know how, because I've never connected to that.

Speaker 1: 51:29

Oh, because my Starlink. I guess we had a power surge so it completely reset itself. So I have to go back in and reset the password.

Speaker 2: 51:36

I never even clicked on it, i just showed up and then I had Wi-Fi. but because you've connected to Starlink before, oh, so it just does it automatic, oh Yeah.

Speaker 1: 51:46

Shit, I'm gonna lie. The other day I was freaking out. I'm like I was looking for my internet Cuz I had it named the Wilson King podcast and I had the password and everything set up for it and like a random Starlink popped up. I'm like who the fuck else around here? Yeah, Starlink.

Speaker 2: 52:01

Nobody apparently.

Speaker 1: 52:02

But hey, man, i say we wrap this old girl up. You give some closing statements, tell people where they can find tickets, buy tickets, where to be, what day, what time for chaos, and we'll get you on the road.

Speaker 2: 52:13

No, i'm just leaving. Goodbye, have a good night. No, oh, let's see tickets. You can go to the Chaos Festival Facebook page just Chaos Festival we Because, well, you have to go to the page and find the event. You can search the event on Facebook as well. It's, it's a mouthful. It's like Chaos Fest five-year anniversary celebration fucking fiasco. Fantastic, oh, something I don't know. But you can find the event on Facebook or go through the page to find the event, the ticket links there, all the information you'll need about it is on the flyers, well, on the page and On the event page as well. But it's July 8th, saturday, july 8th. At the monument in Winchester, virginia, at the Old Town Mall. I think you know what. I'm gonna pull up the flyer to make sure, but I believe the address is 168 North Loudon Street, right? Did I get it right? Am I a good guy? Yeah, oh, no, it's backwards. I forgot. It's 186 North Loudon Street, winchester Virginia. At the Old Town Mall, saturday, july 8th. This is our fifth year doing it and we're super excited to celebrate it with everybody. Give you all a rundown real quick. We got a lot of cool bands this year. We got flesh, the lotus kicking things off into death list, mr Grizzly dead, switch Phantom hour glass but had the betrayer, dixie filth and half-herd voices wrapping it all up for us. Pre-sale tickets are still going right now, until the day before the show, i think it. I think we have it set to cut off at 1159 on July 7th, so you can get them right now. Twenty dollar pre-sales, twenty five dollars at the door, all ages, everybody's more than welcome. Bring the kids, bring the wife, bring the dog, bring the fucking pet deer, whatever you got and I say that because one of the contractors that works there had a pet deer now. But yeah, man, come out and party and have a good time with us, and we're super excited to celebrate.

Speaker 1: 54:17

Dude, thanks for coming and hanging out with me today.

Speaker 2: 54:19

Of course, billy.

Speaker 1: 54:20

so much fun It's, such a pleasure It's always a pleasure having you around all, but thank y'all for tuning in. If this your first time tuning in, you can find us on all Socials at the Wilson King podcast. That's tick tock Instagram, facebook, twitter. You can also find our website at the Wilson King podcast calm. We have all of our episodes there. All of our videos are there. Leave us a review. If you love us, we let us know. If you hate us, let us know. Just hook us up with some reviews, please.

Speaker 2: 54:49

You don't fucking hate him, though. You better leave him a good review.

Speaker 1: 54:52

Five stars only five stars, my boy five stars. But we also have a merch store on there. We got t-shirts, men's tank tops, women's tank tops, backpacks, beanies, snapbacks, coffee mugs. Sound like it.

Speaker 2: 55:08

Sounds like a salesman for a furniture store. We got deals. We got deals. We got mattresses, couches, recliners, furniture.

Speaker 1: 55:17

But hop on there, check out our merch store. If you like something, buy it, if you don't tell us to get bent.

Speaker 2: 55:25

That's what you need to make for a shirt if you don't like it, but get bent.

Speaker 1: 55:29

I hope everyone has a great rest of your day. Be safe, be responsible, don't drink and drive. peace, peace You.